10 Ways Sony’s Venom Movies Secretly Helped The MCU

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Summary

  • Sony’s Venom franchise has left the door open for a future Spider-Man crossover, allowing the possibility of a showdown between the two iconic characters in the MCU.
  • Venom not having a spider logo creates potential future arcs with MCU Spider-Man, as the symbiote could change its appearance to match Spider-Man if they become allies or if Peter Parker becomes a temporary host.
  • The post-credits scenes of Let There Be Carnage teased a future Spider-Man showdown and set up the symbiote saga in the MCU, creating the potential for Venom to play a significant role in future MCU storylines.

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Sony’s Venom franchise helped the MCU in a variety of ways. Despite being part of another studio and universe, the beauty of the multiverse and Marvel Studios’ ongoing Spider-Man partnership with Sony have created ties between the two franchises nonetheless. As a result, the Venom movies have secretly helped the MCU over the years, in ways both direct and indirect.

Released in 2018, Sony’s Venom starring Tom Hardy surprisingly offered an origin that was devoid of Peter Parker’s Spider-Man, the first host of the Venom symbiote in the original Marvel Comics. Nevertheless, several elements of both the first Venom movie and 2021’s Venom: Let There Be Carnage have supported sections of the MCU, particularly when it comes to keeping the door open for future projects. This includes concepts of the multiverse as Sony and Marvel Studios have strengthened the ties between their two universes. Here are the top 10 ways in which the Venom franchise has helped the MCU.

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10 Sony’s Venom Movies Set Up A Perfect Spider-Man Crossover

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First and foremost, Sony’s Venom franchise has always left the door open for a future crossover with Spider-Man. There have never been any plot points in either Venom film that have closed off the potential for a future showdown between any version of Peter Parker. Furthermore, more recent films such as Let There Be Carnage and No Way Home have very much teased the possibility that Tom Holland’s Spider-Man could be the one to face Venom, bringing their classic rivalry seen on the page to the MCU, while hopefully being an improvement on the Spider-Man vs. Venom battle in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 3 with Tobey Maguire.

9 Venom Not Having A Spider Logo Creates Future Arcs With MCU Spider-Man

Keeping the potential of a Spider-Man crossover in mind, one of the ways Sony has kept their options open with the Venom movies is by not giving Venom the classic white spider logo he has on the page. With Spider-Man being the first Venom host in the comics, the symbiote patterned itself after Marvel’s Websligner, hence the spider logo. As a result, Sony’s Venom not yet having any direct connection to Spider-Man means there was no reason to have the logo in the solo Venom films (yet).

A future arc with Spider-Man could certainly see the Venom symbiote changing its appearance to have the classic spider logo. This could happen either by Peter Parker becoming a temporary host after Eddie Brock or even just wanting to match when and if Spider-Man and Venom ever become allies in the future. The door has been left open for future stories potentially in the MCU or even with the MCU’s Spider-Man making the jump to the Sony universe.

8 Let There Be Carnage’s Post-Credits Helped Set Up No Way Home

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The post-credits scene for Let There Be Carnage directly set up the MCU’s Spider-Man: No Way Home. Almost immediately after the Venom symbiote confirmed its connection to a greater hive mind of symbioses across realities and universes, Eddie Brock and his symbiote were involuntarily transported to the MCU, something No Way Home would later confirm was the result of Doctor Strange’s botched spell thanks to the MCU’s Peter Parker. The post-credits scene certainly hyped up the upcoming MCU movie which was released only a couple of months after Let There Be Carnage in 2021.

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7 Venom 2’s Post-Credits Scene Also Teased A Future Spider-Man Showdown

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The same post-credits scene at the end of Let There Be Carnage also saw Venom recognizing Peter Parker’s Spider-Man on the hotel room television after Eddie and his symbiote found themselves in the MCU. This was presumably due to Venom’s connection to the aforementioned hive mind, where another symbiote from another reality undoubtedly clashed with the Webslinger. As such, this certainly set up a future crossover potential, seeing as how Venom and Spider-Man didn’t actually cross paths in Spider-Man: No Way Home.

6 Venom’s No Way Home Cameo Sets Up MCU Symbiote Saga

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Rather than encountering Holland’s Spider-Man like all the other villains in No Way Home who came from other realities, Eddie Brock and his symbiote were stuck in Mexico during the events of the entire movie, getting drunk while trying to get up to speed on recent events in the MCU. However, Venom was sent back to their own reality thanks to Doctor Strange’s new spell, though a piece of the symbiote was left behind. This creates the potential to either retroactively give Spider-Man his own symbiote saga in the MCU (despite Venom already existing) or someone else like Flash Thompson becoming another Venom host as seen in the original comics.

5 Sony’s Venom Connection Could Set Up The MCU’s Next Big Bad (Knull)

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The greater connections between Sony’s Venom franchise and the MCU could also debut the major big bad known as Knull. Also known as the King in Black, Knull the Symbiote God seeks to cover the entire world with his symbiote hive mind. He poses a massive danger and is just as powerful as Thanos or Kang the Conqueror (perhaps even more so considering his history of murdering Celestials).

At any rate, the threat of Knull could only be fully realized on screen if there was a full universe of heroes to resist and/or potentially become corrupted via symbioses. As such, an attack by Knull would work best in the MCU. However, Venom would certainly need to be at the center as the anti-hero who’d stand the best chance at defeating him, just like in the original comics.

4 Sony’s Venom Further Proved Darker Anti-Hero Movies Can Work For MCU

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Venom’s unique status as not quite a hero further proves the MCU can have darker figures in their universe as well. Case in point, the MCU currently has movies such as Deadpool 3, Thunderbolts, Blade, and more antiheroes on the way. As a result, Sony’s Venom franchise has certainly played a role in showing that there is a market for more villain and antihero-focused projects, joining similar movies in recent years like DC’s The Suicide Squad, and it’s a region the MCU has only just begun to explore.

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3 Sony’s Venom Makes MCU’s Missing Spider-Man Villain Roster Less Noteworthy

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Although Spider-Man has one of the largest villain rosters in Marvel Comics, he’s only faced a small handful in the MCU thus far (excluding No Way Home’s villains from other realities). However, Sony’s Venom movies have certainly mitigated this critique to some degree. The same is true for Sony’s Morbius and their upcoming Kraven the Hunter movie, both of which exist in the same universe as Venom’s Lethal Protector.

2 Venom’s MCU Cameo Can Help Explain The Rules Of Its Multiverse

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It also stands to reason that Venom could help further explain the concepts of the multiverse, of which the MCU and Sony’s universes both exist. The idea of incursions in the MCU with universes colliding was first introduced in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. However, the piece of symbiote Venom left behind in No Way Home’s post-credits scene could help confirm whether all living things existing in other universes can cause incursions as well (even if they’re not from the MCU).

1 Sony’s Venom Reviews Prove Not All MCU Movies Need To Appeal To Critics

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When the first Venom movie was released in 2018, it received a 30% critics score on the “Tomatometer” while also receiving an 80% on the audience score. As such, the latter score seemingly led to the movie’s overall box office success which in turn led to Sony green-lighting the sequel Let There Be Carnage. It’s a great example that helps prove the audience score is ultimately what matters for superhero movies if Rotten Tomatoes is being used as a metric at all. Obviously, the same logic applies to the MCU’s movies as well.

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